Thursday, October 23, 2008

Arabian Nightmares

Found on MEMRI:

Egyptian Parliamentary Foreign Liaison Committee head Dr. Mustafa Al-Fiqqi:

"...it would be wrong to assume that the Jewish mind is not involved and implicated in these developments. I reiterate that the global economic crisis is part of the global political conspiracy..."

Lebanese columnist Fuad Matar wrote in the Lebanese daily Al-Liwa and Saudi daily Al-Yawm:

"[Moreover], one can suppose that the Zionists made a significant change in their plans, [and decided that] the time has come to transfer the Zionist strategic base from the U.S. to Europe, when the possibility arose that a black man, Barak Obama, would head the U.S...."

Dr. Umayma Ahmad Al-Jalahma, lecturer at King Faysal University in Saudi Arabia:

"Some say that the facts of the current American crisis are clear, and that there is nothing hiding behind the scenes, but I disagree. [I believe that] those hiding behind the scenes are numerous. [These are forces] that are accustomed to staying hidden and working in the dark... One of these [forces] is the Rothschild family, owner of a global financial empire... I will describe here [several] fiscal plans that this financial octopus [has put into effect and] has exploited their outcomes - [plans] which were based on the destruction of countries and peoples. "

Let me remind my gentle readers that these theories are just a sampling of the products issuing from the finest Arab minds published in Arab mainstream newspapers, which are mostly state-sponsored, anyway. According to this thinking, dominant in the Arab world, 400 million Arabs, ensconced in the warm hug of 1.5 billion Muslims, are spooked by a few million Jews who are out to annihilate them.

Someone who claims to be an American person of old stock, said on some obscure message board only recently: Muslims are today's Jews. It's not the first time I encountered this astonishing view, in itself a denial of antisemitism par excellence. There is a community of sentiment and logic between this position and the kinds of theories so beloved of the Arab masses. Both assume that it is the Muslims who are victims today, persecuted, defamed, reviled, and targeted.

What puzzles me yet is these obscenities clustered around presidential hopeful Obama:

"the time has come to transfer the Zionist strategic base from the U.S. to Europe, when the possibility arose that a black man, Barak Obama, would head the U.S. "

This easy assumption and trust on the part of the writer, that Obama, being a black man, strikes fear into the hearts of Zionists and Jews.

Where did they get this notion? And if Obama gets elected, how is he going to deal with these nations who think and speak in this fashion?

41 Comments:

At 12:09 PM EDT, Anonymous nwo said...

As I told you before, white Europeans are the new Jews. We are the same or rather similar and becoming more samelike. We are villified by the much of the world for all of its ills. We are racists holding the darker skinned people down. White Europeans will be minorities in most if not all countries in a couple of generations. Yet white Europeans will still be successful and wealthy due to their culture and brain power...thus stoking conspiracy theories about their further manipulation and control over the less successful brown folks.

Its the Red/Brown/Islam alliance announcing itself.

 
At 12:25 PM EDT, Anonymous nwo said...

Just to clarify, its not what we are, but what we are villified as that is the same.....and the situation of being a very small global minority seems to be future....but one that is blamed for all the worlds ills.

 
At 2:56 PM EDT, Blogger The Contentious Centrist said...

I think that "to be like Jews" has become the favourite meme of all sorts of people who have the least fear of being annihilated or oppressed.. As Jon Stewart once said: everyone wants to be like us! White Western people are in no danger of becoming the world's Jews anytime soon.

But there is a measure of poetical justice which is highly ironical: in the last millennium, white Western intellectuals went to a lot of trouble to convince themselves and their peoples that Jews were orientals, scheming to dominate and enslave them. And they succeeded in achieving an almost complete destruction of Jewry. Now that a real threat to Western civilization looms in the shape of Islam and Islamists, a threat which has already manifested itself in real events, not some fantasy blood libel, the descendants of those intellectuals are busy denying this reality. In a perverse sort of way, if Islam does get to defeat the West, it can be traced to Jewish responsibility after all. If the Jews did not serve as a red herring, the West might have gotten wiser to the threat sooner...

 
At 4:27 PM EDT, Anonymous nwo said...

The Western Left, you mean.....or does being on the Western Right make you an anti intellectual by definition. LOL! Its tough to keep up with the lies, villification and spin these days.

 
At 4:50 PM EDT, Anonymous nwo said...

Another irony, its the anti Semitic Nazi-ish Russians and Eastern Europeans that will hold off the Islamic hoardes...not the French, Spanish and British.

 
At 4:54 PM EDT, Anonymous nwo said...

The Asians seem to understand territorial integrity and cultural preservation, and wont be torn apart at the seems by Multi-cultists and mass immigration.

 
At 5:11 PM EDT, Blogger The Contentious Centrist said...

Seriously, NWO, I think you should calm down. All is not lost, you know:) The apocalypse is not yet upon us. Europeans, historically, are not any less hardy when it comes to racism and antisemitism. Their fabled tolerance is the stuff of fairy whimsey... ASk any Muslim living in Europe and they will tell you about it. All nice words and elegant posturing, but please, don't step into my livining room.

 
At 5:47 PM EDT, Anonymous TNC said...

The notion that Jews (whoops, I mean Zionists, of course) are "racists holding the darker skinned people down" has been popular on the radical left (nationalist and internationalist) since the 1960s. I read what the various leftists sects were writing back then and see very little has changed.

CC, I agree with you regarding the much trumpeted Euro tolerance. My Indian (Hindu) in-laws lived in London for a while. They have also lived in Chicago and California. They said the U.K. was the most racist place they have ever lived. The place still brings back bitter memories for them close to four decades later.

 
At 7:12 PM EDT, Anonymous nwo said...

Apparently, now being extremely critical and disapproving of the Weathermen and William Ayers, is anti Semitic!

LOL!

You cant make this shit up.

"McCarthyism is alive and well."

Anybody who strongly opposes groups that plan mass murder re-education gulags as a strategy to improve the US, and calls such groups anti American and non patriotic are now McCarthyites and lynchers.

How twisted do you have to be, to arrive at this point? Apparently, just a part of the mainstream Left.

 
At 1:20 AM EDT, Anonymous nwo said...

Im probably need to calm down, but it looks like my governemnt is going to have a Radical Leftwinger and a Democrat Congress headed by San Francisco Nancy and Harry "this war is lost" Reid, with a fillibuster proof super majority.

That is not a calming thought.

We do have a break with the Supreme Court but how long before that becomes an obstacle that is corrected with expansion and stacking with Leftwing Judges for a half a century (ala FDR).

That is not a calming thought.

 
At 2:05 PM EDT, Blogger The Contentious Centrist said...

Obama is not a "Radical Leftwinger". He is a centrist, leaning to the left. And he seems to be open to persuasion. If you bring him a good and persuasive argument, he can reconsider and change his mind. How many people do you know who are able to that? Just because he popular doesn't mean he is just an empty echo-chamber, you know.

 
At 2:37 PM EDT, Anonymous nwo/EscapeVelocity said...

His record does not show him to be a centrist. Nor his friends.

Hanging your hat on a recent transformation seems ludicrous....pie in the sky. Wishful (hopeful) thinking.

I know what San Fran Nan and Reid want to do, and Obama is right there with them, he isnt going to be a break on gun confiscations and bans for instance....that pesky Supreme Court has got to go. When the right radicalizes in opposition, when will the political arrests start, en masse.

Reconsider and change his mind. Good lord! Where did Obama reconsider and "change his mind," except to win an election.

PS - His and the Democrats protectionist leanings are going to start a tarriff war and bring on another Great Depression.

He didnt reconsider renegotiating NAFTA, he reconsidered blabbing it all over the campaign trail.

You confidence seems misplaced.

 
At 2:39 PM EDT, Anonymous nwo/EscapeVelocity said...

The Manchurian Candidate.

 
At 2:54 PM EDT, Anonymous tnc said...

I do not consider Obama a radical leftist. Radical left is Cynthia McKinney, not Barack Obama. He's a liberal leftist (or perhaps a leftist liberal?) whose politics would have been described as "pink" rather than "red" during the Cold War.

He has the most liberal voting record in the Senate and centrists generally don't hang with terrorists and attend churches with close relations to the Nation of Islam. The center-left (as exemplified by vital center liberalism, the Fair Deal, etc.) also tends to focus more on wealth creation and economic expansion than the redistribution of wealth.

As far as his ability to change his mind, I'm a bit cynical. I view it as opportunism.

 
At 3:15 PM EDT, Anonymous nwo/escapevelocity said...

Mark Steyn gets it.

Point of No Return

Will we vote for the same soothing siren song as our enervated allies?

By Mark Steyn

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=Nzk5MWY5YjU0MDI0ODFkYTZjMDQ2MjlhZDM0MjAwNTA=

 
At 4:55 PM EDT, Anonymous nwo/escapevelocity said...

Re-education gulags and the final American solution.....Ayers and Weathermen....Obama's buddy.

Via LGF....video on the link.

Former FBI informant Larry Grathwohl said:

I asked, “well what is going to happen to those people we can’t reeducate, that are diehard capitalists?” and the reply was that they’d have to be eliminated.

And when I pursued this further, they estimated they would have to eliminate 25 million people in these reeducation centers.

And when I say “eliminate,” I mean “kill.”

Twenty-five million people.

I want you to imagine sitting in a room with 25 people, most of which have graduate degrees, from Columbia and other well-known educational centers, and hear them figuring out the logistics for the elimination of 25 million people.

And they were dead serious.

End Quote

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/31662_Bill_Ayers_Terrorist_Group_Discussed_Genocide_of_Americans

 
At 5:46 PM EDT, Blogger The Contentious Centrist said...

NWO: you are feverish. Please, don't have some faith in your own Constitution? "Re-education gulags and the final American solution....."? Obama's presidency, if it comes to pass, will probably be marked by indecision and much bungling, lots of talk and no action.

 
At 6:31 PM EDT, Anonymous nwo said...

The MSM is SOOOOOOO agravating with their bias and spin, they buried Joe Biden story about Obama being tested with generated crisis, and instead promoted this ridiculous non-story about Sarah Palins wardrobe.

I need a drink. Im out of control. Im mad as hell and Im not gonna take it anymore.



PS - The American Conservative is wedded to the Constitution. The American Left has been trying to "re-interpret" it to suit whatever purposes they have that run contrary to it for generations.

This is why the American Left is to be feared more than the American Right. They have no respect for the Constitution.

Im going to stock up on ammo before the election, before they outlaw its sale to private citizens.

 
At 6:50 PM EDT, Blogger The Contentious Centrist said...

Please don't do anything so foolish, NWO. Have some faith in the Republican party... Look what they did to Clinton over a very little sexual lie. Imagine what they will do in case of an attempt to temper with the Constituion! But it will never come to it. Obama does not like confrontations.

 
At 7:13 PM EDT, Anonymous nwo said...

So you are saying that Obama will sit around singing Kum-ba-ya with the EU and the UN....being tied to multi lateralism.

I dont know Noga, the GOP held the House for 6 years of Clinton. We are talking a fillibuster proof both houses of Congress and a Radical Leftist President. I see radical domestic policies headed our way....perhaps an eviscration of the US military.

I see dangerous depressing/oppressing times ahead.

Obama cant control the Congress....even if he wanted to.

 
At 9:16 PM EDT, Anonymous nwo said...

Melanie Phillips cries out: Is America Really Going To Do This?

There are, alas, many in the west for whom all this is music to their ears. Whether through wickedness, ideology, stupidity or derangement, they firmly believe that the ultimate source of conflict in the world derives at root from America and Israel, whose societies, culture and values they want to see emasculated or destroyed altogether. They are drooling at the prospect that an Obama presidency will bring that about. The rest of us can’t sleep at night.

http://www.spectator.co.uk/melaniephillips/2545716/is-america-really-going-to-do-this.thtml

 
At 12:53 PM EDT, Anonymous tnc said...

Reeducation camps? Eliminationist programs? I'm far from an Obamaton, but I do not see this happening. Let's be clear headed.

After all, people on the rad left say similar things about President Bush. That he is setting up "concentration camps" and has implemented fascism in the USA. We know that is nonsense.

And remember when Clinton was president? It was the rad right ranting about FEMA detention camps and black helicopters. They called Clinton a communist. They were totally insane.

There is plenty to be critical of re: Obama. I also worry about the influence of the lib-left if the Democrats get control of both houses of congress. Barney Frank recently called for a 25% reduction in the defense budget.

One thing to keep in mind is many of the places where the Democrats are poised to make gains are races where a Republican is running against a "Blue Dog" (conservative/centrist) Democrat. This gives me some hope:

http://www.bluedogdems.com/index.html

 
At 3:49 PM EDT, Anonymous nwo said...

I remember when Clinton was president Gun owning Christians were being villified and railroaded and US Tanks were rolling over American citizens private property, then torched to the ground.


However, Im not claiming that Obama is a re-education camp genocidal maniac. Ayers however certainly was, and he wized up and moved to indoctrination of other peoples children via the public school system. This is the non violent route to Leftwing utopia, however its also very objectionable...this is why school choice is so vehemently opposed by the Left. Its also within the realm of radical far Leftism. I dont see Obama opposing this and in fact supported it with pork money and via Ayers Annenberg project.

Yes evisceration of the US military is on the way with an Obama presidency and a San Fran Nan and Harry Reid supermajority Congress.

Very frightening. Government handouts for votes and a permanent majority for Democrats fostering dependency on them for government handouts(wealth redistribution). Proctectionism is also in the cards, and can lead to a tarriff trade war, which will if it happens produce a Great Depression and perhaps lead to a world war.


These are not insane rantings, they are distinct possibilities.

I dont trust Obama. Divided government is much preferable....to unfettered Leftwingers, ready to suppress Christians and the second amendment and eviscerate the US Constitution with the expansion of Federal power.

Unanamous support of Obama by our staunchest enemies and critics should be a signal that something is amiss.

I weep for the Republic.

 
At 6:47 PM EDT, Anonymous nwo said...

And Barney Frank seems to be some kind of crazed lunatic determined to destroy America.

 
At 10:16 AM EDT, Anonymous tnc said...

"Gun owning Christians were being villified and railroaded and US Tanks were rolling over American citizens private property."

Are you talking about Waco and Ruby Ridge? If so, those were two cases out of eight years in office. In the case of Ruby Ridge, the Weavers were white supremacists and followers of a "Christian Identity" neo-fascist organization. Weaver believed the "black helicopters" of the New World Order were coming to get him so he refused to surrender. It was a basic "suicide by cop" scenario.

Waco was a bit more complex. But still, I would be incredibly apprehensive of coming to the conclusion that the compound was raided simply because the Branch Davidians were simply "gun owning Christians." It was a dangerous cult.

 
At 1:42 PM EDT, Anonymous nwo said...

Lots of dangerous cults around, heh? Even Godless ones.

Hitler thought the Jews were a dangerous cult of Bolsheveks trying to undermine German society. Arab Muslims do to.

You need to think more broadly.

Were the Mormons in Texas a "dangerous cult" as well? How about the Communists? Or the followers of Jesus?

 
At 3:39 PM EDT, Blogger The Contentious Centrist said...

"Hitler thought the Jews were a dangerous cult of Bolsheveks"

You have a very poor grasp of what Hitler thought of Jews. You can't shrink every mass hatred into local hostilities, you know. It just does not compute.

 
At 5:37 PM EDT, Anonymous nwo said...

I try.

;)

That was kind of my point to The New Centrist.

One man's dangerous cult is a another man's goodly peoples. There was a lot of unproven claims thrown around about David Koresh and his congregation. It seems to me that a lot of people died because somebody bought a firearm illegally and perhaps the powers that be didnt like this group of peoples beliefs. The rest is just window dressing. Persecution by any other name, should smell as foul.

 
At 12:26 PM EDT, Anonymous nwo said...

If you would like to know where the American Left is going....I suggest this article as a quick primer.


The Shadow Party

By Jamie Glazov

FrontPageMagazine.com | Tuesday, August 29, 2006

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=5A30173A-2F13-4FAE-9437-2C67243B964A

 
At 10:35 AM EDT, Anonymous TNC said...

I think the case with Ruby Ridge was rather clear-cut. Weaver could have surrendered. He chose not to.

As I mentioned above, the Waco case is a bit more complex. From what I've read the ATF wanted to push Koresh into a confrontation. Neither side was innocent. But Koresh could have surrendered. He chose not to.

The fire was found to be intentionally set by persons inside the compound. One thing is not clear, whether a significant number of the individuals killed by the fire remained in the compound of their own free will, whether they were held against their will or if they were shot by cult members in order to prevent them from fleeing the fire.

"One man's dangerous cult is a another man's goodly peoples."

Yes, and one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. I don't subscribe to either analogy.

 
At 12:18 PM EDT, Anonymous nwo said...

Well, one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. You just have to know which side you are on. I support the IRA and Sinn Fein, the American Terrorist Revolutionaries, the Contras, etc.

The recent Mormon persecution by the Leftists in the Texas Social Services department is part of the same broader attack on Christianity/God belief by the Left. The Mormons have a long history of being harassed by teh US government.

The point is not to get bogged down in particulars but to recognize the trend. And the trend doesnt look good, given Democrats and Leftists history and their proclamations for future legislation and action.

 
At 12:25 PM EDT, Anonymous nwo said...

Here is the latest study on FDR prologing the Great Depression, making it twice as long and hard.

http://www.lesjones.com/2008/10/13/study-fdrs-policies-prolonged-the-great-depression/


Those who do not know history (or rather hold to an alternate reality/history) are doomed to repeat it.

An Obama presidency with a supermajority Democrat Congress will be a HUGE mistake.

 
At 12:26 PM EDT, Anonymous nwo said...

Maybe the most appropriate term is "actively propagandize an alternate reality/history."

 
At 12:34 PM EDT, Blogger The Contentious Centrist said...

Terrorism is a definable phenomenon. It is not, or should not, be amenable to subjective feelings or moral relativism.

When you say that " one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" you allow no distinction between a freedom fighter and a terrorist, which means that a freedom fighter is per definition, a terrorist.

"The point is not to get bogged down in particulars but to recognize the trend."

Indeed. That is what Hitler and Himmler claimed when it comes to their policies for the Jews:


"It is one of those things that is easily said. "The Jewish people is being exterminated," every Party member will tell you, "perfectly clear, it's part of our plans, we're eliminating the Jews, exterminating them, ha!, a small matter."

And then along they all come, all the 80 million upright Germans, and each one has his decent Jew. They say: all the others are swine, but here is a first-class Jew."

http://www.holocaust-history.org/himmler-poznan/speech-text.shtml

I'll bet 9/11 truthers follow the same logic: you are missing the big picture by insisting on all these details.

 
At 1:08 PM EDT, Anonymous nwo said...

No a freedom fighter can be seen as a terrorist....by the other side.

Acknowledging that, doesnt excuse any terrorist group as a freedom fighter.

In the end it comes down to supporting your side over the other. Hopefully your side wins, else, in the case of Islam, we return to 7th century desert nomad barbarism.

There is nothing morally relativistica about my position. I claim absolute moral authority.....that doesnt mean that the Islamo-terrorist isnt or cant be seen as a fighter for right and good, a freedom fighter, by some or most Islamics.

I supported the anti Communists, not the Mujahadeen. In their struggle against the Soviet Union, they were freedom fighters, IMO. It was the right thing to do.

 
At 2:27 PM EDT, Anonymous nwo said...

Ive been interested in how American Jews have been involved with the Leftist movement which is subverting and undermining Western Civilization.

I havent worked out appropriate language to discuss it without raising hackles about anti Semitism yet. You know Im no anti Semite....but rather anti Leftist. I dont single out the Jews anymore than other minority groups, which have joined together on the Left...and Im not particularly anti them either. Rather I oppose their politics which are wrong headed and applied with a double standard as well.

I would like to discuss it with you sometime, Noga.

 
At 7:00 PM EDT, Blogger The Contentious Centrist said...

"Ive been interested in how American Jews have been involved with the Leftist movement which is subverting and undermining Western Civilization."

I can refer you to a few names who are known for researching this subject:

Pat Buchanan
David Duke
Henry Ford
Charles Lindbergh
Mel Gibson

You can start with them.

 
At 9:09 PM EDT, Anonymous nwo said...

LOL!

Maybe we cant have that discussion?

The problem is that Jews have been supportive of the Left and the Democrat party(and identity politics) which supports open borders (right of return), multi-culturalism, and special priveleges of minority groups....and legal attacks upon Christianity being expressed in the public sphere as a natural cultural expression.

Could you imagine if American Christians moved to Israel in significant numbers and allied themselves with Israeli Arab Muslims attacking Judaism being expressed in the public sphere under the guise of promoting multi-culturalism and secularist government, pushing civil and voting rights legislation, then moving on to enforce positive discrimination, racist Knesset voting districts, and special set asides for minorities government contracts? All with the Israeli Left appointing "Activist Judges."

I think there is more here than you wish to admit. I sure wish we could talk about it.

Dont tell me that a significant majority of Jews dont begrudge Christmas celebrations in this country....and secretly cheer for lawsuits by the ACLU to remove Christmas decorations from Fire Departments and Town Halls.

 
At 10:30 PM EDT, Blogger The Contentious Centrist said...

In his book of essays "After Strange Gods" (1934), TS Eliot said, regarding a homogeneity of culture (and implying a traditional Christian community),

"What is still more important is unity of religious background, and reasons of race and religion combine to make any large number of free-thinking Jews undesirable."

The philosopher George Boas, who had previously been on friendly terms with Eliot, wrote to him that, "I can at least rid you of the company of one."

And another one who didn't like free thinking Jews:

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/anti-semitism/nixontape.html

There should be a law that those who don't like free thinking Jews must never derive any benefit of knowledge or understanding from their writings and theories.

 
At 10:56 PM EDT, Anonymous nwo said...

Did you just give me the literary finger?

:)

You may not be able to see it, but I dont begrudge Jews there opinions. However I do hold their opinions to account when they are clearly in the wrong.

I dont begrudge Jews that supported African American equality before the law and right to vote and equal opportunity. Good stuff, and shame on whitey for not holding to the high principles of the US founding documents. White European Christians did as well, but that does not absolve the majority from its infringement and poor treatment of minorities.

The problem comes later with the advocation of special rights, priveleges, and protections....instead of equality.

This is the Lefts folly and Jews are largely supportive of that folly. Just as one segment of the Left. They arent monolithic of course, but do support Democrats and the Left in landslide proportions.

You know that Jews would not be appreciative of Christians coming into Israel and voting in large majorities with the Arab Muslims and the Israeli Left. And rightly so.

Libertarianism and equality before the law and of opportunity is the fair government policy.....creating a massive government only heightens the conflicts between groups as they fight for their share of the pie and control of the public school cirricula, etc.

I dont deny that Jews have a culture of excellence in intellectual endevours. Why would I? Im not about throwing Jews out of the country or rounding them up or villifying them. Im about critiquing what seems to be the politics of their majority.

Would it be anti Christian of Israeli Jews to make such observances if American Christians were doing the same in Israel?

I know you are touchy about this subject, but snapping down honest discussion isnt helpful. Its like Obamatons yelling racist at everyone who questions him or disagrees with The One.

 
At 10:57 PM EDT, Anonymous nwo said...

PS

Im sorry to have brought it up.

 

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