Saturday, December 26, 2009


is an Arab-Islamic term, that means, roughly I think, isolation.

The term seems to
play some role in the story posted by Saudi Jeans:

So few days ago in Dammam some members of the religious police somehow got the impression that they could storm a women’s public restroom on the courniche to arrest someone. They went in and moments later emerged dragging a girl who was crying, screaming and begging them to leave her alone. She tried to run away but fell on the ground. The Haya’a men apparently thought it was okay to hit and kick her, so they did that in the street while people were watching, then they carried her and threw her in the back of their jeep. [...]

UPDATE 23/12/09: According to al-Watan daily, the girl has been released. The newspaper quoted security sources who said the girl was arrested based on the suspicion of a khulwa, while the boy who allegedly was with her managed to escape. The haya’a in the EP declined to comment on the case. The police said they received the case and they are searching for the boy..

As I googled for the meaning of 'khulwa" I found this story:

A young man and woman in Saudi Arabia decided to do the ultimate act of evil: to take a drive together in the man's Toyota Camry.

Of course, a man and woman being alone together - even in a car - is known as "khulwa" as can be punished with many lashes and a prison sentence.

Our heroes at the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice got tipped off about this flagrant violation of human decency and started to go after the criminals. [...]

On the Madina-Tabuk Road, in the Tabuk area, the chase ended when the Camry rammed head-on into a truck and burst into flames.

The man’s body was totally charred. The woman’s body was ripped into two by the force of the impact. They were too disfigured for immediate identification.

But most importantly, our heroes managed to stop a flagrant act of khulwa, and, especially, any unspeakable acts that might have followed.

And this story:

The sentencing of a 75-year-old Arab widow to 40 lashes and four months in prison for mingling with two young men, who were reportedly bringing her bread, has sparked fresh criticism of the Kingdom’s judiciary and the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice.

Khamisa Sawadi, a Syrian who was married to a Saudi, was convicted and sentenced last week for meeting men who were not her immediate relatives. The two men, including one who was Sawadi’s late husband’s nephew, were also found guilty and sentenced to prison and lashes.

And this.

Ah, well, we get the general idea.


At 6:01 PM EST, Blogger EscapeVelocity said...

Hey Noga,

I was thinking the other day, which may come as a surprise to you...

But this occurred to me...and I wanted to get your thoughts on the matter.

Has anyone ever noticed the sort of Western Leftist Female behavior, which is sort of the reverse of the War Rape….where they go out of their way to have sex with non Western males as a sort of rebellion against Western Culture and Christianity and presumably the Patriarchy?

Like Obama’s mother, for example.

Instead of foreign soldiers raping the women, the women go out and bed foreigners.

At 7:45 PM EST, Blogger The Contentious Centrist said...

Read Fey Weldon's "Splitting".

It is quite possible that Obama's mother fell in love with Obama's father, and that his skin colour was one of the features which made him beautiful in her eyes. What causes people to fall in love is anybody's guess. It could be a clever turn of a phrase, a moment of sudden mutual understanding, a response to being noticed, gratitude, anything really. Is skin colour the first thing you notice about a woman or is it her
beauty? Why do you even bother with thoughts like this? Some things are just biology and hormones doing what they are supposed to do.

Here is a verse from the Canadian poet Anne Carson:

" . . .So why did I love him from early girlhood to late middle age
and the divorce decree came in the mail?
Beauty. No great secret. Not ashamed to say I loved him for his beauty.
As I would again
if he came near. Beauty convinces. You know beauty makes sex possible.
Beauty makes sex sex. "

At 12:02 AM EST, Blogger EscapeVelocity said...

Rape as implement of war is well established, is it not?

You certainly dont deny that Feminists are and were (at least some of them) beholden to the idea that the personal is political.

Given a political mindset such as Communism or New Leftist Feminism, one can easily see using sex as a weapon or of power.

So to deny the culture that you abhor access to your sacred womb, would certainly count as a political driver of that action.

Im not saying that Obama's mother was necessarily an example, but that it could be.

No doubt that the phenomenon actually exists in your mind, though, correct?

Who knows why this came to my mind, however, I did recently view this video, put out by MTV's Rock the Vote organization, in relation to the Health Care Bill in the US.

Check it out...perhaps this was where the kernel developed that fired the synapses in this peculiar way...

I would be interested in your commentary on it...

At 9:54 AM EST, Blogger The Contentious Centrist said...

I once read about a conference about feminism in which men were forbidden to attend and straight women or bi-sexual women were likewise jeered at as traitors to their gender. To me this would suggest a problem with ALL men, not just a segment of the species.

I don't think much of your theory. It has no merit.

Some insane person is doing a PhD dissertation on the fact that Israeli soldiers do not rape Arab girls. It is imputed to racism. I consider your theory on the same level as that thesis.

At 1:00 PM EST, Blogger EscapeVelocity said...

Right. Ill take that under consideration. However, I have learned not to assume to much when it comes to Leftwingers. That they act like normal people.

Furthermore, I do understand where you are coming from. It can seem like madness.

The Left is fond of ridiculous analysis, which is a dressed up political attack. The legitimacy of the thesis or the analysis isnt the point, but rather the villification, ridulization, undermining of values, subversion of culture, revision of history etc.

I have realized that most Conservatives are not rockers of the boat, or distrubers of the peace, preffering instead to be defenders of the peace and the status quo order and institutions, whether those institutions have been poluted with Leftwingers and Leftwing subversion or not.

I guess I am what they call an activist movement Conservative, who is willing to push back using the same tactics, techniques, strategies and activism of the Left. Active villification, ridiculization, challenger and underminer of Leftwing values, boat rocker, peace disturber, subversion of Leftwing culture, instigator of Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt with regards to Leftwing ideas, groups, and so on and so forth.

It took quite some time for the Conservatives to pushed to the edge by the Left, but the Left will never be satiated with compromise, they will keep pushing and pushing, if you give them an inch, it only wets their appetite for more. Their utopian visions arent lessor than the Communists, their visions are the same, from teh same source and lead to the same outcome, driven by the same desires. They must be countered however imperfectly, I or others on the Conservative American and Western Right do so. Because they arent going to stop of their own accord.

At 1:18 PM EST, Blogger The Contentious Centrist said...

This is the problem with your so-called activism. It is a push back against what you have to consider the satanic Left. This is the juncture where sane thinking stops and phantasmagoric demonization begins. Instead of cultivating your garden and looking to the well being of new, constructive, doable and beneficent ideas about how to conserve the extant good while whittling the bad, you are much more interested in defeating what you perceive of as the Mega Left. Thus everything Left is sinister, everything right is good. The same sort of Manichean and dangerous thinking one finds on the rabid Left and in most of the Arab media.

There is much good that came out of Marx, like the forty hour work week, or the abolition of child labour, or rights for the employee, such as medical care, unemployment benefits, etc etc. Yet to listen to you it would seem as though Marx were the antichrist himself.

It is not an interesting discussion you are offering.

At 1:19 PM EST, Blogger EscapeVelocity said...

So you counter with another thesis, that Feminists deny men, not just Domestic Men their charms and wombs. As if that counters my thesis. It only bolsters it, that the New Leftist is off their rocker and a twisted mind like that could certainly puzzle out that they dont like America or Caucasian Europeans (White People) and deny them their natural charms, while actively given them to "the other," just to spite them.

Furthermore, this political analysis of Tiger Woods fondness for white women, shows where my thesis is right up the Left's alley, stolen straight from their playbook...on the esteemed pages of the Washington Post.

Tiger's validation complex

By Eugene Robinson
Tuesday, December 8, 2009

Then we also have Naomi Wolfe and her paeans to the burka and how sexy it is.

Behind the Veil Lives a Thriving Muslim Sexuality published in the Sydney Morning Herald.

Here is a link to the dust up, where Horowitz's publication called her out on it. That is what I am, a David Horowitz style fighter for all that is dear and righteous in this world against the Left who wish to tear it down.

Links off the original article, Wolfe response, and Glazov response to the response.

No Naomi Wolf, You Apologize
By: Jamie Glazov

Oh, and that MTV RocktheVote video is just par for the Leftist course. They have no shame, and clearly have no problem with using and promoting the use of sex as a political weapon, and creating a culture of that nature in the youth and children. They are dispicable and will oppose them with every bone in my body and talent or lacking that, effort in my body. They are vile and evil and dangerous.



At 1:31 PM EST, Blogger EscapeVelocity said...

There is much good that came out of Marx, like the forty hour work week, or the abolition of child labour, or rights for the employee, such as medical care, unemployment benefits, etc etc. --- Noga

Marx was quite a doer wasnt he? No other source for those ideas, anywhere. They are all to be attributed to the great one.

It matters not if you find the topic uninteresting. That will not stop the Left.

I do agree however that you are correct in needing to be proactive in promoting the ideas of Conservativism, Christianity, traditional values, etc....

Where you are wrong, is that, countering the Left with its own successful tactics shouldnt also be persued. Its not an either or proposition.

Ceding education, and the media, to the Left was a grave mistake, those institutions must be targeted and taken back.

The New Left culture that has arisen within private corporations must also be challenged in courts and battled via lawfare. Judges must be placed on the bench, activist Conservative judges.

You can just expect that your way of life, if it is good will survive the onslaught of the Left. It wont. They sit around in universities and think tanks with their PhDs thinking up ways to undermine your culture and Constitution, and religion, Christianity, your cultural, and building the infrastructure in which to launch attacks on it via their well laid out plans.

As always, it is unfortunate that we find it necessary to protect ourselves from people making war on us. However to stand around while they destroy all that you hold dear, and not fight back, is unthinkable. If its war they want, its war they will war.

At 1:42 PM EST, Blogger EscapeVelocity said...

This is how your admonitions sound in a slightly exaggerated way...

Just because the Nazis attack your Jewish culture, doesnt negate all the good they have done for Germans. Instead of cultivating your Jewish garden and looking to the well being of new, constructive, doable and beneficent ideas about how to conserve the extant good while whittling the bad, you are much more interested in defeating what you perceive of as the ultimate evil, The Nazis. Thus everything Nazi is sinister, everything anti Nazi or Jewish is good. The same sort of Manichean and dangerous thinking one finds on the Nazi Right and in most of the Arab media.

Im sure that tried your patience for today.

So Ill leave you in peace. Till another time.

At 2:24 PM EST, Blogger The Contentious Centrist said...

"So you counter with another thesis, that Feminists deny men, "

No. I have no thesis on the matter. I pointed out to you that there is a faction of insanely radical feminists who have an outlandish position similar to yours about women and sex.

At 12:50 PM EST, Blogger Rebecca said...

Isn't this all a digression from the point of this story by CC, about the insane lengths to which Saudi Arabia will go to prevent unrelated men and women from associating with each other?

One thought I had about the meaning of the word khulwa is that it seems like it's being used like the Hebrew word יחוד (yihud) - to refer to an unmarried man and woman being alone together (something which is also forbidden in Jewish law).

At 2:33 PM EST, Blogger EscapeVelocity said...

In other words, Leftwingers are nuts.

Furthermore, they are waging a cultural war on me and mine, and I will do everything in my power to oppose the would be cultural genociders.

Full Stop.

Im not pushing, Im pushing back. That is why its called reactionary.

At 2:37 PM EST, Blogger EscapeVelocity said...

You can equate me and the Left all you want to. Its nothing new, this moral relativism.

And the Left will keep on equating Palestinian and Arab Muslims and their actions with Israels and Jews.

I know you can see it, but you are part of the Mega Left, in regards to me and mine, however in regards to you and yours, you see me as the similar to Ahmadenijad.

And so it goes.

I know I stand for liberty, so you and cookie can make pronouncements all you want on my equivalence to Islamics. It wont be the first time Ive been villified by the Left, and it wont be the last.

At 6:31 AM EST, Blogger SnoopyTheGoon said...

Looking back at my bio, I see so many cases where I've committed khulwa that, most probably, I am beyond salvation.

With this I am signing off the year 2009? Anyways, happy new year, Noga.


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