Comment Trail: October 12 - 19
@ TNR: Ahmadinejad visits Israel's northern border, gets a memorable gift and goes underground
"Three scorpions in a bottle"
@ The Spine: The Israeli Cabinet proposes an amendment to citizenship oath. Some say the new bill borders on Fascism
@ TNR: Boardwalk Empire
Counterproductive
What Ahmadinajd Shouted at Metula
The Contentious Centrist
"Civilization is not self-supporting. It is artificial. If you are not prepared to concern yourself with the upholding of civilization -- you are done." (Ortega y Gasset)
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Since no other nation's laws ever come under such magnifying-glass scrutiny --- Noga
This is false Noga.
You know as well as I that Euro Christian nations are under the same intense scrutiny, by the same Western Left...of which American Jewry embrace that scrutiny with a vigorousness.
It is great to see Jews having to defend Israel from those same attacks, and in the process labeling masses of critics as Jew haters. They are paving the way for the re-emergence of a vigorous no apologies Euro Christian cultural revival.
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/adrian-hamilton/adrian-hamilton-israel-has-no-future-as-a-purely-jewish-state-2105933.html
"...a case of racist discrimination on any interpretation. But it is more than that. At heart it reflects a push to make Israel into a mono-cultural, ethnically-homogenous nation which deliberately rejects other races or beliefs within it. ..."
How does anyone see the Jews of Israel as "mono-cultural, ethnically-homogenous"???
Even if you could integrate immigrants from Bukhara to Brazil, from Ethiopia to Canada, ..., the near-infinite diversity of religious Jewish liturgy from the atheists to the Hasidim is far more diverse than anything in the United Kingdom. And they have the legacy of an Empire than includes an Anglican Church in a non-violent not-so civil war of secession.
It just boggles the mind, and I am infuriated at the tone of the TNR thread. So I thought I would vent at Hamilton's tunnel vision of mono-cultural Jewishness. He must be on Ahmandinejad's Twitter for "Jews-are-bacteria" jokes.
K2K
You want diversity, look into American Christendom.
“If I am not for myself, then who will be for me? And if I am only for myself, then what am I? And if not now, when?” -- Rabbi Hillel
You might look into critical theory, Noga, and the Frankfurt School...to see the roots of the extreme criticism with the goal of deconstruction and deligitimization of the Euro Christian majority nations and societies.
Its now being used as a blunt instrument on Israel.
Not fun, heh? I sympathize with you.
Here is are 2 videos which you may find interesting.
PJTV The Narrative - Bill Whittle
http://bankoran.com/?p=83
http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/4680.htm
[originally in Arab News Sept 28;
translation of] "Former Saudi Navy Commodore and U.S. Liaison Officer Tells Of His 9/11 Experience In U.S., Speaks Out Against Cordoba House: New York's Muslim Community Lives in Peace and Prosperity... Let Us Avoid Unnecessary Confrontation"
Well, I knew those two "missed you, roid" comments would bring him back as would Peretz slipping back into semi-rants.
K2K
Yes, that's too bad. But maybe he will disappear again after he has depleted his current levels of bile.
There is much to be said for a Roidless universe.
CC, you have my deepest admiration for being able to engage creatures like the roid and Mr. Dubai-Sleeze without losing your cool.
I was so angry the other night when I quietly and carefully crawled into bed that my wife woke up out of deep sleep and asked me what was wrong....
Will: My advice is that you should not allow these discussions to seep into your real life. If you feel you are getting too angry just keep away for a while. These things can work like poison. I see these "engagements" as an opportunity to learn how to deal with the most perfidious positions, to learn what is being said and how, and not to be surprised by anything anymore. If one loses one's cool, one loses. Where there is a risk that I might get too angry on a personal level, I ignore what is said.
I guess I missed the thread where Will meets the Roid...I noticed the Settlements thread is quite long and will check that...in the Lebanon thread, I just read his first sentence and move on.
BTW, Sophia asked him about having a cat becasue I am sure she read the NYT opiniator essay I linked, wherein a cat-lover admits the need to overcome the stereotype of "curmudgeonly shut-ins" . I thought that is what Sophia was implying, or one of the comments about how men who have cats never get respect :)
Found this linked at PJM, "The Jewish Problem With Obama" which apparently was declined by Vanity Fair (to make room for Lady Gaga and Sarah Palin? I subscribe and there are always fluff-stones amongst the gems in VF). Escaped my notice because I do not read HuffPo.
Posted in five linked parts, and reveals more than we thought about what the O is really up to with his PITME policy. Illuminating about the Ramat Shlomo over-reaction in March.
I wonder if Peretz has read this, thus bringing back his O-rants.
I wonder how many American Jews have read it, especially in New York where there is considerable unwritten speculation about what Jewish voters are going to do in certain congressional contests.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/edward-klein/post_983_b_747634.html
I can tell you that fundraising is really hurting the Dems. I just got three invitations to lunch with Michelle for Blumenthal (Senate) in Connecticut on Monday. 100 seats to sell and they are emailing ME???
K2K
Ah, it was the citizenship oath thread - it is always painful to see a newbie of willjames' intelligence and integrity have to figure out that roid is a classic psycopathic bully who believes his own lies and is incapable of empathy. add in the rigid ideological black/white divide of if-you-do-not-agree-with-me, you are a rightwing fascist [fill in the blank]. multiplied by the obsession with Peretz.
Plus, he is back to foul language.
Will - ignoring him is what eventually causes him to disappear, plus that doctorate in economics at the New School. He feeds on the attacks if his acolytes are absent. That is what Molly meant, as she openly admires roid rage.
K2K
Thank you, my friends, for your words of wisdom. I know better, but I do occasionally lose my cool when the level of animosity and the outrageousness of accusations take me by surprise.
I agree that the roid is a dysfunctional creature that feeds on negative energy and is best avoided. When I see the mess he makes as soon as people engage him, I often think of the tar baby from the Uncle Remus stories that I read as a kid.
Will - he seems to have sputtered into incoherence, at least temporarily. closest I have seen to a meltdown :)
Spengler at AsiaTimes always cheers me up, always worth the wait. Here is his insight into Iran's technological deficits, especially with software, which is why Hezbollah's missiles are a real danger. Am NOT posting this in the A-jad thread.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/LJ13Ak01.html
K2K
Interesting article, K2K. It's ironic that after all is said and done, qassam rockets and IEDs seem to be the most dependable lethal agents in their arsenal.
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